The Secret Beyond Matter

Those who seek to depict Muslims as shedders of blood are mistaken; Islam is a religion of affection, compassion and love

In recent times in particular, some Christians have been making a number of unrealistic claims regarding Muslims. These people depict Muslims as bloodthirsty and oppressive individuals, using specific incidents as evidence, in their own eyes at least, even though this is all a very far cry from the true facts. They interpret, in their own eyes, the oppressive system that manifests itself in a number of areas of the world and that various forces unjustly seek to ascribe to Islam, in disfavor of the Islam faith. They try to give a totally different impression of the Islam revealed in the Qur’an, citing various wars that took place out of necessity in the past, in which Muslims were obliged to defend themselves. This is a grave and groundless calumny. The people in question are unacquainted with Islam, are unaware of the true face of those who perpetrate cruelty in the name of Islam and are unable to evaluate the state of affairs in question in a healthy and rational manner.

The people who make this claim imagine that it is genuine Muslims who abide by the Qur’an that spread terror in the name of Islam. The fact is, however, that they have nothing to do with the Qur’an or Islam. The great majority of the well-known terrorist leaders today are intelligence agents who have been trained for purposes of provocation. These are members of well-known intelligence agencies in America and Europe and receive their instructions directly from those intelligence organizations. All these people have received a Darwinist and materialist education. They are people who are unable to properly appreciate Allah, who fail to live by the true Islamic moral values commanded by Him, who live far removed from the fine, warm and loving moral values of our Prophet (saas) and have fallen under Darwinist indoctrination. They are people who have agreed on the errors of Darwinism, that conflict is the only road to progress and that violence and oppression are essential components of life. The fact they may appear to be Muslims, belong to any Muslim country or that their identity documents state they are Muslims does not alter that fact. These people live on an entirely Darwinist world view. This is how they evaluate the people around them: according to the errors they have accepted “human beings are slightly more developed animals; they have no souls personal identities or responsibilities. In any animal community, the weak must be weeded out and eliminated.”



The terrorist leaders in question are actually people raised to be “spoiled and faddish” in a manner far removed from Islamic moral values in America and various European countries, who are always in the night clubs, have an atheist mindset and have embraced the negative and degenerate aspects of Western culture. It needs to be stated here that one may have led all kinds of different lifestyles before beginning to live by the moral values of the religion, and that is not something to be criticized. One may hope for Allah’s forgiveness for these errors if one genuinely repents and turns to belief in Him. But it is different with the people in question. When the time comes for these people to go to work, they grow beards and start work looking like Ahl al-Sunnah (those Muslims who believe and live according to the Qur’an). They receive their orders from the aforesaid intelligence agencies under atheist masonic control and unhesitatingly carry out the requisite actions. They have nothing to do with Islam. Their religion is not Islam, but Darwinism, materialism.

It is impossible for sincere Ahl al-Sunnah (Muslims who fully abide by the Qur’an) to support and be a part of such a repressive system that exists in opposition to the Qur’an. The people who carry out this oppression in the world are the followers of Ibni Miskeveyh, the Darwinists, materialists, socialist sympathizers and admirers of Stalin, Che, Lenin, Mussolini, Hitler and Mao of this world. They are people who foolishly attempt to apply the aberrant ideas of bloody materialists, communists and fascists in the name of Islam, and who think in a way diametrically opposed to the moral values of the religion.

That is how this tyrannic system that certain circles unjustly try to impute to Islam works. Some Muslims may claim that this tyrannic system carried out in the name of Islam was never actually a reality and seek to deny it completely. But the correct thing is not to deny these actions, but rather for them to be described as the actions of mason-supported atheist intelligence agents in order, in their own eyes, to neutralize Islam across the world (surely Islam is beyond that), and to make it clear that such actions are very definitely forbidden in Islam .

In making these allegations against Muslims, the Christians in question ignore one very important point. As is known in  history the USA caused the deaths of tens of thousands of people by dropping atom bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. There were also Muslims, Christians and Jews among those people. And children, and old people, and innocent men and women. But the Islamic world never sought to lay the blame for this action perpetrated by the U.S. government on Christianity. In the same way, thousands of Muslims were barbarically slaughtered during the attacks which were openly called the Crusades, and even Christians belonging to other sects were tortured to death. And mosques were pillaged as well as the churches. The blood that has recently been shed in Iraq, Afghanistan and other Muslim countries was Muslim blood. But Muslims have never used this as grounds for saying that people who live by the Gospel are killers. Any sane person can see that irreligion always reigns anywhere in which oppression is taking place. Indeed, rational Muslims who abide by the Qur’an and believe in Allah never hold Christians responsible for the massacres in question. That is not something that anyone who genuinely believes in Allah could do.


It is now time for those Christians who make the unpleasant allegations concerning Muslims in question to abandon these erroneous ideas and habits. Ignorance generally plays a large role in these claims. That is why our Christian brothers must read the Qur’an with an unbiased eye, study the life of our Prophet (saas) and consider the works, lives, ideas and activities of pure believers who live by the moral values of Islam. It is clear that there is no room for violence in Islam. According to the Qur’an, war is only possible for defensive purposes, when property, lives or virtue are in danger. But even then, Muslims never go to excess, and have a responsibility to treat the captives they take kindly, even give their prisoners food while they themselves go hungry, to establish peace without delay and to protect civilians and the innocent. It is clear from the life our Prophet (saas) the kind of behavior in this regard that Islam demands. Throughout the 13 years they lived in Mecca our Prophet (saas) and the Companions were subjected to terrible duress, attacks and slanders; they were forced to leave their homes and threatened with death. But they never resorted to violence despite all this aggression and oppression. When the oppression in Mecca increased, they migrated to Medina, and during the Medina period they only engaged in wars that were unavoidable and for defensive purposes. For example,  the Battle of Bedir began when the Meccan pagans gathered their armies and attacked the Muslims, intending to martyr them. At Hendek the Muslim erected obstacles around the city in order to protect themselves, and the fighting was purely defensive. In short, the wars in the past were all unavoidable and defensive, the result of direct and ferocious attacks by pagans. None was an offensive war.

Someone who sees and grasps the depth of the Qur’an can also easily see that there is nothing but forgiveness in it. The Qur’an says that Muslims must not go to extremes in war, and that they must stop fighting when the community they are at war with does so:

Fight in the Way of Allah against those who fight you, but do not go beyond the limits. Allah does not love those who go beyond the limits. (Surat al-Baqara, 190)

But if they cease, Allah is Ever-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (Surat al-Baqara, 192)

The Qur’an also recommends that prisoners of war be forgiven and freed. Allah tells us in the Qur’an that is it better to forgive people, even if murder has been committed. Muslims’ responsibility, according to the Qur’an, is always to do what is best for Allah’s approval. Since Allah regards forgiveness as best, even in the case of murder, that is what Muslims need to do. Islam is a religion of affection, compassion, peace and love. Those who seek to give a different impression of Islam should abandon that behavior forthwith.


(From Mr. Adnan Oktar's live interview on Kanal 9 TV and Kral Karadeniz TV, January 9th, 2009)
Presenter: A few days ago 6 Coptic Christians were killed in Egypt in a drive-by shooting while leaving the church. All the media in the West started to cover this story in a negative way since the incident took place in a Muslim country. The Egyptian government does not make a declaration about the issue. What do you think about this subject?

Adnan Oktar: Recently some of our Christian friends, brothers are keen to show Muslims in the history and also today as blood shedders, cruel people who cause trouble, who flout the laws, rights and democracy. They are giving examples from the wars in history. If we were to give examples from the wars in the past—especially our American Protestant brothers, Evangelicals speak so—they murdered tens of thousands of people in Hiroshima in an instant. They killed tens of thousands of people in Nagasaki in an instant. There were also Muslims, Christians there. People from all religions. So in accordance which law was this carried out? Right? They shed blood in numerous countries. They shed blood in Afghanistan and Iraq. With which law were those done? Right?

No Muslim interpreted these incidents as; “This is how those abiding by the Gospel are, they are blood shedders.” We said, “
This is the spirit of [atheist] freemasonry, a requisite of being a [atheist] mason. Those disbelievers who are neither Muslims nor Christians committed it.” In no way did we attribute it to Christianity. Let me correct the word “attribute it”, may Allah forgive me, let me say, “We did not hold Christianity responsible for it.” Consequently, it would be erroneous for our Christian friends to hold Islam responsible when an incident happens; they have to abandon that habit.

Alright, there is war in the Qur’an, but it is as a self defense, when you, your possessions, security and honor is under attack. That is to say, someone has entered one’s house, there is a raid with weapons, rifles. They had knocked the glasses-frames down and fired bullets. What can a man do in such case? Shall he bring them into court? What should he do? If he attempted to escape, he would fail. Right? What should be the action? To save one’s life, defending one’s self. There are things to do while defending one’s self; for instance, people first open fire to the air, they threaten, open fire to the air, if these measures prove to be ineffective, they try to stop the perpetrator by injuring him but in a way not to cause suffering or killing him. This is self-defense. Is there any other way of doing it? Is there any other way in the case of a sudden attack? Since he can not escape. So what is to blame or to see as a fault here?

In those periods, Muslims were under enormous pressure, under great cruelty. They were being put in pits and burnt with petrol. What should be done? What should he do? There is a mid-night raid. They come with swords, maces and spears. Were they to say ;  “Welcome, let us serve you some tea? ” What should they tell? Of course they defend themselves. Meanwhile, there may be loss of lives during this defense. This is not something abnormal because the other party has already come to take your life. It is very difficult to defend oneself without harming the other side at that moment, during a mass attack. You can not say, “Let me just make him faint and deactivate him.” In the conditions of the time, there wasn’t a mean to knock someone out anyway. What can they do? Consequently, it is very erroneous to blame and criticize Muslims. They should criticize themselves. There is not the slightest error in what is done in the time of our Prophet (pbuh). None of them are wars of attack.
Oktar Babuna: As you know better insha’Allah, there is also a disproportion in the numbers [of the armies].

Adnan Oktar: And everything is aimed at forgiving. For instance All-Mighty Allah says, “but do not go beyond the limits”, “if they stop, you also stop”, “release the captives, behave well to the captives.” What a perfect explanation. What a humanistic interpretation. In case of a murder, for instance, notice that this is a murder, Allah says that there is the right for retaliation. Normally the penalty for murder is execution. However Allah says, “It is more auspicious for you if you forgive”. Since a Muslim would always choose to forgive, which is more auspicious, so what? Don’t we see here the highest form of compassion, love and mercy? What is the meaning of forgiving an enormous cruelty such as murder? Allah relates, “It is more auspicious for you if you forgive.” Consequently Islam is a religion of love, mercy and compassion. But this also holds true for Gospel and Torah. Even in its distorted form, it has preserved these beautiful features.

Consequently they will abandon trying to provoke Muslims, murdering, acting despotically and attributing an incident perpetrated by a few psychopaths to Muslims. This is very erroneous.

Besides when we look at the murderers, we see that they were educated either in Britain or America and undergone Darwinist and materialist education. Someone with a sufistic manner, someone sensible, or let us think about a follower of Risale-i Nur, has anyone seen a follower of Risale-i Nur whose name has been involved in a murder in any corner of the world?

Oktar Babuna : No one has seen, insha’Allah.

Adnan Oktar: Let alone murder, has anyone seen such a person injuring someone? There are millions of followers of Risale-i Nur, and they, in no way, commit it. For instance a Sufi, a member of a religious order; there are, for instance, Shazinis and Nakhshibendis abroad. Do we ever see them committing such an act? Or a Fiqh scholar, a scholar who has undergone an Ahl al-Sunnah education. Have we ever seen such a scholar committing such an act? In no way. Who are the people that we see committing such acts? Those followers of Ibn Miskhawayh, those Darwinists, materialists, advocates of evolution who have sympathy for socialism, admirers of Che, Ho Shi Minh, those trying to reconcile the views of Lenin with Islam, those people suffering from inferiority complex. Consequently they need to discriminate between them. We mean the genuine Muslims. A genuine Muslim is always full of compassion, mercy and love.

(From Mr. Adnan Oktar’s live interview on Kral Karadeniz and Kanal 9 on 10.01.2009)

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