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Mr. Adnan Oktar's interview by Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini for Veterans Today (May 10, 2018)

Kartal Göktan: Welcome dear viewers, welcome to our program the Live Conversations. We have this evening in our program an esteemed guest. Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini, you are welcome.

Adnan Oktar: Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini, yes.

Dr. Oktar Babuna: Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini is the Head of Middle East Office for the military and foreign affairs publication, Veterans Today. Dr. Al-Husaini also holds a doctorate degree in international relations from the University of Oxford. She was a representative for many international media organizations as their Middle East expert. She is also a member of the American Institute for Middle East Strategic Studies and serves as Assistant Director of the Arab-American and Muslim Congress. She has also offices in many other organizations, such as the foreign affairs consultant for the American Global Leadership Council and special advisor for the European Department for Security and Information (D.E.S.I). She is here this evening to hold an interview with you on behalf of the American military and foreign affairs publication, Veterans Today. This media organ constitutes the largest independent media network for the U.S. Army Veterans, with 4 million visitors and over 35 million page views annually. Welcome.

Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini: Thank you.

Dr. Oktar Babuna: And Mr. Nedim is a businessman in Turkey.

Adnan Oktar: How beautiful, we are honored. Welcome. It is a great honor to have you here as a guest. You are from the lineage of our Prophet (pbuh), a Husaini. That is also wonderful.

Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini: Well, I thank you very much Mr. Oktar, it is my honor to meet with you and to see you. And when I came to Istanbul, first of all, before coming to Istanbul, I heard about you from Senator Frank Creyelman. He told me so many nice things about you. And then when I came here, I did not ask the people about you. But the people told me you are a very famous man and you are a celebrity in your country. My honor is to meet you and to come to see you today. Thank you very much.

Adnan Oktar: I thank you also. Since you are from the lineage of the Prophet (pbuh), you are like a queen for us. We hold you in the highest esteem.

Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini: Thank you, thank you. Thank you very much.

Guest: I also appreciate Nana. She gave me the chance to meet you, Mr. Oktar. Since I am 63 years old, I could not have the chance to meet you. Thanks to Ms Nahed Al-Husaini for showing me this chance tonight.

Adnan Oktar: You have also honored us with your presence. It is a great pleasure to have you here. I hope that we will meet again, insha'Allah.

Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini: Surely, we will.

Adnan Oktar: Insha'Allah. I am sure you have wonderful questions. I am patient, but I still would like to hear them as soon as possible.

Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini: Yes, of course, I have some questions for Mr. Oktar. Mr. Oktar, how do you define yourself for the American audience? Who are you?

Adnan Oktar: I am just an ordinary Turkish citizen. I do not have any extraordinary quality. But I am an author.

Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini: Well I have heard that you have kind of, I would say, extraordinary powers. What are those powers?

Adnan Oktar:  I do not possess any metaphysical powers. I am just another servant of God. I am just another Muslim who is as weak as all other subjects of God, and who have surrendered himself to Him. I do not have any extraordinary attributes. I am just an ordinary Muslim who seeks to gain greater insight.

Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini: Mr. Oktar, are you leading a kind of mystical cult, a religious cult? This is what I want to know. Mystical religious cult is very special. I need to know if you are believing in such cult or leading such a cult.

Adnan Oktar:  I am an extroverted, cheerful person with a typical Turkish personality, who dances to the Anatolian folk tunes, admires women and likes music. I do not have any mystical qualities. My friends here are modern, young people. They are also full of life. They like dancing, music and having fun. In order for our group to be called a cult, I have to be a part of a chain organization; I have to be a member of the Naqshbandi or Qadiri orders. Therefore, I am not a cult member. And since I am not one, I do not have any connections at all to a cult structure. We are a small group of close friends who are joyful and fun. I admire women, I like music and entertainment.

Since I have talked and inform people about the Mahdi quite a lot, people tend to have this opinion about me that I claim or imply that I am the Mahdi. I do not have any semblance of any claim of being the Mahdi. I have sworn numerous times that I would never make such claims. Also, Mahdi would not dance like I do among women wearing short skirts or join the Freemasonry. I am a 33rd degree mason. So, me being the Mahdi is essentially impossible. I guarantee you in that regard.

Mahdi will struggle against the Freemasonry, and I am a 33rd degree Freemason. So such a thing is utterly improbable.

I am also 33rd degree Templar Knight. I have some qualities that the Mahdi will stand against. Therefore, it is impossible for me to have such a claim.

Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini: I want to shift from this subject to a different subject. How is your relationship with President Erdoğan?

Adnan Oktar:  I love Mr. Erdoğan dearly. He is an honest, decent, pious person who wishes to see the Islamic Unity, the Turkic Unity established. He is a very genuine, talented and visionary person. He has mastered in all these affairs. But I I have not met him personally. I follow him from the press and books, and I follow his works. He has some aspects that I appreciate a lot. This is why I support him.

Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini: How do you see the relationship right now between the United States of America and Turkey, Sir?

Adnan Oktar: We, as a nation, love the American people. There is an American admiration in Turkey. Everyone admires and loves the U.S. We would never see ourselves separated from the American people and so would they. They also love the Turkish people. There may be some small disagreements from time to time, but in general, we have always remained friends and this friendship will clearly persevere.

The American people are amiable and friendly. They love their neighbors. They are trustful, joyful, humane, compassionate, hardworking and wonderful people. The whole world loves the American people.

Those who hate them hate themselves and their own families as well. Those people basically hate everyone, so one should not pay them heed.

Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini: I do agree with you, Sir, that the relationship between the U.S. and Turkey is very good and would never go bad. I do agree, yes.

Adnan Oktar:  It is impossible, and besides, we would never allow it.

Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini: We have to work together always, you and I, not to allow this to happen.

Adnan Oktar:  We stand together until the very end.

Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini:  I hope so. I have a very intellectual question for you. I do see that the world has become like a nuthouse, now. We have wars raging everywhere. We have fanatic, crazy jihadists fighting a phony war. They do not know what they are fighting for.  How can we stop terrorism and get rid of this evil, this Pandora's Box full of evil?

Adnan Oktar:  This issue will be resolved in 3 to 5 years. And the solution lies in Jesus Messiah and Imam Mahdi. We believe that both of them are here on this earth.

Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini:  Thank you, I agree. So the solution would be when the Imam Mahdi emerges, then he will stop this evil, the dark powers from prevailing in this world, and the Messiah, who is going to pray behind him?

Adnan Oktar:  Since you are from the lineage of our Prophet (pbuh), you are a sayyida, you know better than I do. Both Jesus Messiah and Mahdi are on duty. After a while, the true, pious Christians and sensible Muslims will unite, which will be supported by the Freemasonry, the Templar Knights and other powers that are yet to be known. And the results will be wonderful. All heads of states will join in on this alliance. Iran, the USA, Russia, Turkey, Pakistan, India will all be involved in this. And through the participation and cooperation of the heads of states, the issue will be settled once and for all.

Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini:  Mr. Oktar, thank you very much. I do agree with every word you say. Do you believe, I am sure you believe but, do you feel that Mahdi is going to emerge soon? I am interested in your point of view.

Adnan Oktar:  I believe that Mahdi is actively carrying out his duty right now. God will instill, inspire in people's hearts, and thus all people will know.

Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini:  My final question to you. What message would you like to send to the American people?

Adnan Oktar:  American people are the ornaments of this world. They are one of the most beloved nations in the world. They are a people who bring peace and democracy to the world, who defend democracy and freedoms. They are the guardians of freedoms. They are well-meaning, friendly, beautiful people. They are intelligent, hardworking, kind, polite and respectful, too. God created the American people specifically like that. He created them as a special power to defeat satan and the dajjal movement. Currently, the dajjal movement is trying to use them, but very soon, they will personally overcome and defeat the dajjal movement through wisdom, science, knowledge and love.

Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini:  Thank you very much. It is a very fascinating interview. I am really honored to meet you again. And I want to cooperate with you personally with my offices in the United States to make this world a better place. Thank you very much.

Adnan Oktar: This is a gift to us from God. God is providing us with His guidance. It is God, Who created both you and me, and it is Him Who has crossed our paths. We are on the verge of wonderful events. God is and will always be by our side, insha'Allah.

Thank you very much. It was truly an honor and joy. Meeting you was one of the most momentous events in my life. I am expecting another visit from you. We will see each other frequently and our friendship will last forever, insha'Allah.

Dr. Nahed Al-Husaini:  Of course, I have no doubt whatsoever that our friendship will last forever. And meeting with you, Sir, is a fate. I am a faithful person. God willed that I meet with you tonight. Thank you very much.

2018-05-17 01:35:59

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