The Secret Beyond Matter

Adnan Oktar and Rabbi Yehuda Glick on live TV show (December 3, 2009)


PRESENTER: Good evening. Welcome to our program named Together With Mr. Adnan Oktar. Tonight we have a special guest again. Before I introduce him to you, if you please, I would like to announce from which channels our program is being broadcasted tonight. Tonight we are live on Cay Tv and Kahraman Maras Aksu Tv. Apart from these, you can also follow this program alive through some radio stations, these are:

Ilgın FM Konya broadcasting from 97.4 FM frequency. Yıldız FM Tekirdag 87.7, Genc FM Karaman 93.3, Adıyaman ASR FM 96.0, Mavi Karadeniz Radio 106.4, Radio 37 Kastamonu 95.2, Radio Star Aksaray 94.0, Emek Radio Mardin 101.0, Radio Enerji Ordu 90.0, Keyif FM Nevsehir 92.7. It is also possible to follow our broadcasting alive from these radio stations. We can now start our live program­ by introducing our guest if you like.

ADNAN OKTAR: Of course, that would be great insha'Allah.

PRESENTER: Welcome Rabbi Yehudah Glick from Jerusalem. Can we know you a little bit?

RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK: Good evening Mr. Oktar. Good evening Ali. Good evening all the people watching us today all around the world. It is really a very special honour. As I said my name is Rabbi Yehudah Glick. I'm from Jerusalem. I'm the former director of the Temple Institute of Jerusalem. And I'm presently the chairman of the Organisation for Human Rights on the Temple Mount and the chairman of the Foundation, of the Temple Mount Foundation in Jerusalem.


PRESENTER: Yes, please.

RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK: Okay. Basically, as we all know, in the past century, the world has gone through major changes. We see miracles. I can be on a boat in Turkey and pick up a plastic item, and talk to somebody on the other side of the world. And these are miracles. These are miracles that we have seen in the past century. And we refer to them as only natural but these are miracles. And just like these miracles are happening all over, if my great grandmother would come to my kitchen, she wouldn't recognize the dishwasher, the microwave, and the refrigerator. And so to these things that we refer to as natural are showing us that we are in a very special unique era.

ADNAN OKTAR: Masha'Allah.

RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK: And just as we see this in technology, it is ten times more true in human history. We see in the past century how words of many prophecies have come out of the book and have been materialized and have become reality. The Jewish people have come back to their homeland, to Israel. And Jerusalem is becoming a city which will be the capital of God in the world. I want to say that I have come to Turkey for a few days by the invitation of Mr. Oktar and I really see how he and his foundation are very very great lovers of Israel and lovers of the Jewish people. The more they studied Torah, the more they recognized the Jewish people and the more they honor the Jewish people. And for this I really want to express my great thanks.

I want the people, the Jewish community of Turkey to recognize the fact that Mr. Oktar is a very close friend and a true spiritual lover of God. In Israel in Jerusalem, the city chosen by God Himself, we have the Temple Mount. Now the Temple Mount is recognized as the place chosen by God to build the Holy Temple. Solomon built the Holy Temple there and then the Second Temple stands there. Other religions refer to the Temple Mount as holy to them. Christians and the Muslims and some people think that if a place is holy to all religions, it is a dangerous place and we are coming to say that the truth is the opposite. A place, the Temple Mount which is the holiest place in the world, where God began the creation of the world should be a center of religious tolerance and as Mr. Oktar said and I agree with him, it should be a place of freedom of prayer and freedom of worship for all religions and our goal should be to study the heritage of the Temple Mount and to understand the concept of building God's House and as God said in the book of Isaiah; "My House will be a house of prayer for all nations."

ADNAN OKTAR: Masha'Allah.

RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK: And as I said I am the chairman of the Organisation for Human Rights in the Temple Mount. Unfortunately people have been using the Temple Mount to bring a bad name for Islam. From the Temple Mount there are some people who are promoting violence instead of promoting love in the name of God. And I was very happy to hear that Mr. Oktar condemned those who are using the Mosque, Al-Aqsa Mosque for violence. Because this Temple Mount should be a place for all those who is faithful in God, should pray to God and worship God on the Temple Mount. And this is what our organization is trying to do; to promote freedom of spiritual religious prayer and religious practice on the Temple Mount.

ADNAN OKTAR: Masha'Allah.

RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK: And the Temple Mount Heritage Foundation is there to educate mankind and tell people that the Temple Mount which is a holy place, which God chose to begin the foundation stone and the creation of the world. And Mr. Oktar is the biggest, faithfullest man in the world who promotes the belief in creation and creation begins on the Temple Mount. And the Temple Mount Heritage is trying to teach this concept to all of mankind. And we are bringing people to the Temple Mount, we are guiding people on the Temple Mount and we are teaching that the Temple Mount teaches the roots of God in the world. Creation as the roots of the world as the root of God's presence in the world from the Temple Mount.

ADNAN OKTAR: Masha'Allah,.

RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK: And what we are trying to say… And the Temple Institute of course is trying to prepare the actual building of the House of Prayer for all nations. But the concept of what I am trying to do and the purpose of my meeting with Mr. Oktar and the foundation, the beautiful foundation and the beautiful people that are running the foundation, is trying to do together, is to unite together, because our goal is to announce to the world God is One, His Royalty is One, His Name is One. Or as you say it in the Qur'an "Allahu ahadun (He is Allah, the One and Only), Allahu alssamadu (Allah, the Eternal, Absolute), Lam yalid walam yooladu (He has not given birth and was not born)". (Surat Al-Ikhlas)God is One, God is Eternal and this is in our dream is to announce it, unite it and announce it to the world. And this is what our foundation is trying to do together and this is why I am here today in Turkey.

ADNAN OKTAR: He read Surat Al-Ikhlas, Masha'Allah.

RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK: I want to thank Mr. Oktar for supporting this faith, this belief. I thank him for calling people to allow freedom of religion on the Temple Mount. I want to thank him for supporting building the House of Prayer for all nations in the Temple Mount. And I want to thank him for uniting and passing the message on that God is One, His Name is One and His Royalty will be One by shaking hands one another.

ADNAN OKTAR: Masha'Allah. Alhamdulillah. Masha'Allah.

RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK: And I want to thank him for calling people to support all of our work in helping to promote these great concepts.

ADNAN OKTAR: Some people want the Jews, Christians and Muslims to be each other's enemy, to be in war and shed each other's blood. That is the plot of the satan. The Christians, Jews and Muslims will live by their own beliefs individually as they know it. However they will all approach each other friendly and brotherly, and in compassion. We are all coming to this world to be tested. It is natural that every religion thinks that it is the true religion. We also, as Muslims, do believe that we are the members of a true religion. And of course a Jewish person would also believe that his religion is the true one and so will a Christian believe that his religion is the true one. Every one of those should be respected. Consequently every one of those should be given the freedom of worship. Their living altogether as brothers should be ensured. We have to be very alert and cautious in the face of satanic organized actions that attempt to set them against each other.

Also about the subject of rebuilding the Masjid of the Prophet Solomon (as), there is a satanic thought that attempts to set believers against each other propagating ideas like "be aware and never get close, if you do, you would become the army of the anti-Christ. Muslims are -Allah forbid- anyway the army of the anti-Christ" or "the Jews are the men of anti-Christ" or "the Christians are the men of the anti-Christ." First of all, all those people mentioned are endeavoring to be the servants of Allah. The appreciation of that would be done by Allah. In the Hereafter, when we are called to the sight of Almighty Allah, Allah will evaluate our situation. However, enmity towards the People of the Book is unlawful in this world. That is to say we are all responsible to live compassionately as friends and brothers. We do business with them, we eat and dine with them, we live as brothers with them. Each one will practice his own religion, each one will freely live by his own faith. Consequently, since interference to each other's faiths would not be a subject under discussion, there will be no obstacle for them to live with each other as friends and brothers. That is how it is according to the Qur'an, according to the Sunnah of our Prophet (pbuh). In the times of the Rasulullah (The Messenger of Allah) (pbuh) the Christians, Jews and Muslims had lived cheek by jowl with each other as brothers.

And the Jews are the descendants of the prophets, they are the descendants of Prophet Abraham (as). Satan wanted to wipe them off the face of this world. Satan had commissioned Hitler for this task, he commissioned Mussolini. Satan had commissioned people like such perverted Neo-Nazis and alike. Muslims are responsible of defending what is right and the oppressed against such persecution rings. Therefore we will not let anyone persecute neither the People of the Book, the Christians, nor the Jews insha'Allah, nor our Muslim brothers.

That is to say, by Allah's leave, we do not, insha'Allah, under no circumstances, give way to terror executed by states as the Hitler type, nor to civil terror.

Insha'Allah. And as for the Masjid of the Prophet Solomon; there is a very wide area there, a very beautiful place. Do you have the film of that area, the photographs with you? It is not a big deal if you don't. I have shown it before, there is a very wide broad area there, insha'Allah. We will build the Masjid of the Prophet Solomon (as) there. We will also build a masjid beside the grave of the Prophet David (as) insha'Allah. All the believers will be able to practice their worships comfortably and freely in that area insha'Allah. There will be a section for Muslims, and another section for Jews and also one for Christians. The believers will be able to perform their prayers freely there. The Prophet Solomon's Masjid is a masjid praised in the Qur'an. Solomon's Masjid is not a masjid that has been vanished and disappeared in the history. Insha'Allah we will build it again with all its beauty and glory by Allah's leave.

Jerusalem is a holy place for Muslims and for Christians and also for our Jewish brothers. It is a city praised in the Qur'an. Insha'Allah we will all live friendly and brotherly in these beautiful lands, in Jerusalem, in which the holy masjids like the Qubbat as-Sakhra, Al-Aqsa Mosque are built, in which the Prophet Solomon's Masjid was built. Especially when the Turkish-Islamic Union is established, an era of perfect peace and security will begin insha'Allah. Each state will be independent in its structure, Israel will live independently, Turkey will live in its own national borders within its own system. All the states will live friendly in peace by preserving their own national systems, insha'Allah.

In Israel, insha'Allah we will knock down all those walls, those walls that encircle Israel. Palestinians will be completely free and Israelis will also be completely free. We will make Palestinians and Israelis embrace each other insha'Allah. They will all be very joyous insha'Allah.

Some Evangelical masons, Muslim masons, and also some other masons that are members of other Christian orders, moreover some masons which show themselves as Jews are working in cooperation to prevent the Muslim, Christian and Jewish brotherhood. We will insha'Allah put the plots of these masons out of action. They are trying to halt the rebuilding of the Masjid with all their might. Insha'Allah we will rebuild this Masjid with all its beauty and all its glory and we will also turn that place into an extraordinarily beautiful place just like it was during the times of Prophet Solomon (as). We will turn Jerusalem into a magnificent and admirable place abounding in cultivated fields and gardens insha'Allah.

They are trying to give out a message like this: If you do not make war, if you do not spill blood, you will become the army of the anti-Christ; however if you do so, you will be sound men. That is an atrocious satanic plot, no one will ever be deceived by this. There will be peace in the beginning and peace in the end; not even a single drop of blood will ever be shed in any stage of the time of Hazrat Mahdi (as) insha'Allah. Messiah mentioned in the Torah is the same person as the Mahdi according to our belief insha'Allah. Not even a single drop of blood will ever be shed during his times insha'Allah and all the world will live as brothers in peace, joy and happiness insha'Allah.

RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK: You know that the Prophet Isaiah, he says that "All the nations will come to the Temple Mount and will look to go in the footsteps of God." And in chapter sixty he says that "the foreigners and the gentiles will build the walls of God" and so too the Prophet Zacharia in chapter six, he says that "people from far away will come to build the Sanctuary of Lord." I'm sure he is talking also about people from Turkey, also about people from the Philippines and from the United States together to build God's House. Because God said "My House will be a House of Prayer for all the nations" and He is referring also to leaders… kings of the gentiles who support the Jewish roots and support the Jewish freedom of worship on the Temple Mount and the Jewish freedom of independence in Israel.

ADNAN OKTAR: Insha'Allah… Masha'Allah… Insha'Allah. With the appearance of the Messiah, Hazrat Mahdi (as) according to our belief, all humanity will be gathered under the same tent insha'Allah. This will be the tent of love, compassion and brotherhood. Everyone will be free to perform their prayers, everyone will be happy and joyous. We will of course ensure the security of the lives and goods of the Jews, their safety also, and the safety of our Christian and Muslim brothers in the perfect sense of the word insha'Allah. Insha'Allah this will be such a period. And we, as the pioneers of the Hazrat Mahdi (as), are putting our best foot forward to perform this task to the best of our ability and we will continue to do so insha'Allah.

The subject matter of Hazrat Mahdi (as) is also explained in the Torah in great details. For instance;

"The spirit of the fear of Lord shall rest upon him... his delight shall be in the fear of Lord..." (Isaiah, 11:2-3) That means he will fear from God very much.

"It [the Messianic age] will be ruled by the Messiah (the Mahdi)… [who is] close to God." (Maimonides, Mishnah Torah, Sanhedrin 10:1) That means it will be ruled by the Messiah, the Mahdi (as).

"Your eyes will see… [the Messiah-the Mahdi] in his beauty..." (Isaiah, 33:17)

"You are the most excellent of men..." (Psalm, 45:2)

"... He [God] shows unfailing kindness to His anointed [the Messiah-the Mahdi]… forever." (2 Samuel, 22:51)

"The Messianic age [the era of the Mahdi] will be… dominated by goodness and wisdom." (Maimonides, Sanhedrin 10:1)

"It will be ruled by the Messiah [the Mahdi]… outstanding in wisdom…" (Maimonides, Sanhedrin 10:1) Insha'Allah.

Some of the characteristics of the Mahdi (as) have been listed here. I mean, it is said that he will be very much superior than some of the other people.

And it goes on by stating "because of his [the Mahdi-Messiah's] great righteousness…" (Maimonides, Mishnah Torah, Sanhedrin 10:1)

For instance it says "For [the Mahdi-Messiah]... trusts in the Lord." (Psalm, 21:7)

There are so many verses in the Torah about the Mahdi-Messiah, there are quiet a lot of commentaries insha'Allah.

I mean eventually all three religions will be at ease, they will live together as brothers very happily by Allah's leave, insha'Allah. Insha'Allah.

RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK: We are hoping that it won't be in the future. We want it to be in the present. And all the nations should call in the Name of God, His Name will be One, His Royalty will be One, He is One. And therefore it is so important that you are here and telling people about the freedom of worship on the Temple Mount. And it is so important condemning people who are using the name of Islam for promoting violence and therefore it is so important the call of unity that is coming from your mouth.

ADNAN OKTAR: It will be very soon insha'Allah, latest in 10 years insha'Allah. 10 years… Masha'Allah.

RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK: I want to say one more thing. Next week… You know, you just this week celebrated the celebration of the Qorban, you celebrated the Holiday Eid al-Adha in which you remember when Abraham totally gives his faithfullness in God. And we in the tradition, Jewish tradition this takes place on the Temple Mount. That a person should be ready to give God anything, his entire life and this is the meaning of the Temple Mount. This is the meaning of the holiday that you celebrated. Next week we will be celebrating Hanukkah. Hanukkah is the celebration where we mark the menorah. You know the Menorah, it is the Golden Lamp… that God has created, which every single day the high priest will light in the Temple. And we celebrate Hanukkah, a very special thing, in the darkest week of the year, in the winter when the day is short, and the night is long. And we are celebrating the holiday of light and we are saying that he who is connected to the light of God, can bring light to the world. We put them in the menorah on our window and on our door and we tell people "whoever is connected to the light of God will be able to bring light the world". Because the origin of light in the world is not the Sun, origin of light in the world is the light of God.

ADNAN OKTAR: Symbolically that is how they think, yes.

RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK: Since I believe that there are so many people in the world who truly agree to what you say here. About the need to unite all those who are faithful in God… Insha'Allah.

ADNAN OKTAR: Insha'Allah.

RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK: Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheemi (In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful). Alhamdu lillahi rabbi alAAalameena (Praise be to Allah, the Lord of all the worlds), Alrrahmani alrraheemi (the All-Merciful, the Most Merciful), Maliki yawmi alddeeni (Master of the Day of Judgment). Iyyaka naAAbudu wa-iyyaka nastaAAeenu (You alone we worship, You alone we ask for help). Ihdina alssirata almustaqeema (Guide us on the Straight Path), Sirata allatheena anAAamta AAalayhim ghayri almaghdoobi AAalayhim wala alddalleena (the path of those whom You have blessed, not of those with anger on them, nor of the misguided). (Surat Al-Fatiha)

PRESENTER: Amin. Amin.
ADNAN OKTAR: Masha'Allah. Masha'Allah. Masha'Allah.

RABBI YEHUDAH GLICK: La ilahe illa Allah (There is no god only Allah).

ADNAN OKTAR: Masha'Allah.There is no other god besides Allah. Alhamdulillah, Masha'Allah.

2010-01-01 16:45:38

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